May 12, 2025
Altering the Perception of Caregivers and Dementia with Dr. Fayron Epps
When Dr. Fayron Epps launched the Altar program, she was told repeatedly that no one would fund research connecting faith and dementia care in the Black community. Fast forward to today, and her groundbreaking initiative has expanded to 23 states, 112 faith communities, and 14 Christian denominations—with millions in funding from government agencies, corporate sponsors, and foundations.
What makes this program revolutionary is its dual approach: utilizing the "altar" of the church while "altering" perceptions about dementia in Black communities. By training faith leaders to support caregivers over a committed two-year partnership, Alter creates sustainable support systems where judgment is replaced with understanding and practical assistance.
During our conversation at what I insisted on calling the "summit convention" , Dr. Epps revealed how her own experience of not wearing stockings to church and feeling judged informed her passion for creating more inclusive faith spaces. She shared powerful stories of pastors who initially seemed hesitant but eventually became champions for caregivers in their congregations.
Most compelling was learning about Altar's newest focus on youth caregivers—teenagers who silently shoulder adult responsibilities without recognition or emotional support.
For caregivers feeling isolated or judged within their faith communities, Dr. Epps offers a vision of what could be—churches that recognize your struggle, make space for your loved one's changing behaviors, and provide genuine support rather than mere platitudes.
Want to learn more about bringing the Altar program to your community? Visit their website at alterdementia.com.
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00:00 - Introducing Dr. Faye Ron Epps
06:44 - Faith-Based Approach to Dementia Care
16:23 - Building the Altar Program Movement
23:07 - Financial Support and Church Partnerships
34:46 - Youth Caregivers: The Overlooked Contributors
39:01 - Key Takeaways and Final Thoughts
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That's what altar is.
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Yeah, it is us altering our perception of dementia, altering our attitude toward dementia.
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This is me snapping my fingers, okay.
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And that's what altar is.
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So we are playing off the altar of the church.
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Come to the altar, yes, but also let's alter our perception in the black community so we don't be so judgmental.
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We understand and we're like, oh, how can I help?
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Or let me just help, don't even ask how to help, let me just okay, let me do that.
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And that's what we're working toward and that's why we're here this evening.
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We got the power of the pulpit, so we have faith leaders talking about how important it is, and then you brought up how people are investing.
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I've got to let people know that when you're doing God's work, you're letting Him order your steps and you're serving His people.
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He will make provision.
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How many times we've heard that in a sermon?
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And I'm here to say that it actually is true Parenting Up.
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She be so serious about reading her magazines.
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Emoji with all the kissy hearts.
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I assume that she is Zetty.
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Today's episode altering the perception of caregivers and dementia.
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Thank you.
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What's up parenting parents and other family.
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Once again, it ain't me, but we have outdone ourselves as a community.
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It is the dementia gods trying to say we know it's hard, but we are going to give you all a reason to smile and a reason to keep going.
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I ain't do it, but some kind of way I am in right in the middle of the altar conference convention.
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I am sitting here with the founder, the one and only Dr Faye Ron Epps.
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Now let me tell you something.
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She got so many commas behind her name.
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I ain't going to mess around and get that thing out of order.
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My grandmama told me you can't mess up people's schooling, okay.
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So I'm going to just tell y'all to go look her up.
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But this is the thing.
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She has research behind her and she has community activists behind her.
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She got the government M-I-N-T behind her.
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She got corporate money behind her.
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She got hip-hop artists behind her.
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She got civil rights organizations behind her and she ain't even on a cane.
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Y'all feel what I'm saying.
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She ain't no old legacy purse, this baby about 18, 18, 19 years old.
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She got baby skin.
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Get some shea butter on here.
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I smell.
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it ain't no white diamonds, okay I can't dr x how you doing honey, I can't, I can't I'm doing good.
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Thank.
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And did you say a convention?
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Wow, that's just a little meaning.
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No, it ain't you called it a convention?
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No, it ain't.
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Let me tell you why I called it a convention.
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Tell me she can be humble.
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I ain't got to be humble Because, since it's doing it in the middle of the world being on fire, in the middle of listen, for legacy's sake, it is 2025.
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It's 2025.
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The government is firing people and slashing things.
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Talking about some ain't no diversity.
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I was put on a cool shuttle to go from the exhibit registration over to where we are right now government and academic and corporate sponsors, front and center and happy as you know what to be sponsoring this convention.
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Because I saw bags when you get, I got a badge on, and when you have a bag with goodies in it, and there is a shuttle because there are multiple points.
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And then you got in, I got into this particular site and there are signs, y'all colorful signs, saying if you go into this session, go left.
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If you go into this session, go left.
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If you go into this session, go upstairs.
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If you go into the third session, go to the right.
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Okay, and we got multiple Bathrooms, y'all.
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This ain't even part Of the interview, drl.
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This just me trying to prove to these people that we at a convention Alright, I'm going to receive it.
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I'm going to receive it.
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We'll talk offline about you and your convention.
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Okay, all right, okay, anyway, but it is a convention.
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So I am so honored that I was able to steal you away a little bit in the midst of such a phenomenal event.
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It is alter, okay, on your shirt it says dementia summit.
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That's bigger than a convention.
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So play me All right, anyway, we're going, I'm gonna let this go.
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Okay, okay, it's a summit convention.
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All right Now, top that I don't know.
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Ain't nobody had a summit convention?
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All right Now.
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What is so magical to me about you is that you have a PhD in nursing.
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Is that correct?
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Yes, okay, and y'all, I swear she looked 12.
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I don't know how she got out of that school and but anyway, she has a PhD in nursing.
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And you have put your life's work into the intersection of caregiving the underserved population and the faith community.
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Yes, and some kind of way you have gotten mainstream to give you money to do it.
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Yes, do tell, do tell, dear Dr Epps, do tell.
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How did you have the courage to tell that dream out loud?
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Yeah, well, you know, thank you for bringing that up because I have to just tell you it's nothing but God it really is.
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It's nothing but Him Because when I started off with my schooling I am a woman of faith that has been very constant in my rearing.
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It's in my family.
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And when I wanted to do my research studies I wanted to look at religiosity.
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I wanted to study it more.
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I was interested why I got put out of church.
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Because I had stockings on right.
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I mean, I didn't have stockings on.
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I should say you know all that judging that goes on in church.
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I just really wanted to just dig into it.
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But people kept on saying no one's going to give you money for studying religion.
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No one cares about religion.
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Caregiving was big in my family.
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No one cares about religion, the caregiver's religion and their faith and how that plays.
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Everyone just kept on putting it off and so I followed them.
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I said, okay, no one cares, let me go over here and do this.
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But I knew one thing I always want to do work in my community and that's with the black community.
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So it doesn't matter what you research, what you do, faith is going to come out Church, the pastor.
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It's going to come out in their responses.
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It's going to come out Church the pastor.
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It's going to come out in their responses.
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It's going to come out in their stories.
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And at that point I couldn't ignore it and I had to just step out on my faith and be like I hear you, god.
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I have to say this is what I'm going to do in my professional role.
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I am going to really explore how I can make sure that these caregivers are still being spiritually supported, how those persons living with dementia can still be spiritually supported, what faith-based interventions I can develop.
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And I had someone at Georgia State, as a matter of fact.
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She said how did you get this funded?
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You got a whole faith hat was the name of my intervention.
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But the thing is, god gave me the gift of how to highlight health outcomes, because that's what people are interested in, and they forgot they read about all that religion and faith by the time they got to their health outcomes.
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And here we are, and so that's how that research got started.
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And as I started working with families and in the community, I heard from the community.
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I moved to Atlanta in 2016.
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They said start with the church.
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I was like what Start with the church?
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My bishop, who will be speaking during this keynote this evening.
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He said start a ministry.
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What?
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No, no, no.
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You know, because I am that person that sits on a pew, let me pay my little money and maybe pledge money, tithe money, I don't know, but I'm gonna pay my little money and I'm gonna leave before even he says amen at the end.
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I'm out the door in the car and for him to say, no, you need to start a ministry.
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And the whole thing is I was like well, what ministry I start because I don't get to church on time?
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Can't be, usher, right, can't be.
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No, greeter, start Because I don't get to church on time.
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Can't be usher right?
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Can't be no greeter.
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Come on now, I don't sing.
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Tell me this, dr Elsie.
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Tell the truth, how long did?
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you fight that I'm not going to start that ministry.
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You know what?
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It wasn't that long.
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It wasn't Because that evening when he told me that and he asked me, he said well, what do you do?
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Because I had a whole list of things I don't do and I said I do older people and I started explaining about dementia and caregiving.
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He said, well, that's your ministry.
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And I just left puzzled and then when I went home I called some colleagues, ladies that I had met when I moved to Atlanta and I told them what he said and they say let's do this.
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And I was like, are y'all serious?
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And we put together a proposal and brought it back to my bishop and he said this is it.
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And it was just started off with us going out and educating, giving our time, educating the community about dementia and awareness, and it started off with three people.
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Next thing, you know, we had people all outside the door because they heard about it and they wanted to be part of this and it's all about responding to the community.
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And that's when I seen oh okay, this is it, this is the ministry, and it has really it has transformed and the reason it's transformed and I'll tell everybody that's listening.
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You have to listen to hear to be able to respond.
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And so when I'm out in the community, I'm talking to any family, any individual.
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I'm listening to hear and respond.
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And the altar program was created because of a response to a bishop.
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Bishop Aaron Lackey, after his education session, came to me he said so what I'm supposed to do with this?
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And I didn't even have an answer because I thought I was doing good, because I was just educating people, because that's what they told us Go out and educate.
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You got to educate and you're like Bishop you told me to educate.
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I got some folks.
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I'm educating him right here in Atlanta and okay, check, let me go on back to work.
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Yeah, and Bishop said uh-uh, what do we do?
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This thing has struck like fire, it's spreading.
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What's next?
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Yes, and that's how we created this full-fledged program, because I said, oh, I need to coach the faith leaders on how to respond to their parishioners.
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Okay, hold on now.
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Wait Now you.
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My granddaddy would say you're taking me too fast.
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Oh, okay, okay, Now we got to slow this down.
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All right, because you've been living in this and breathing it like oxygen.
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Yes, but for people in the Parent Up community, because our podcast look, we, we, the little podcast that could okay, we got folks all over the world, all over the world.
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We have listeners, that's right, so we got to take them slowly.
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A non getting to church on time, not wearing stockings person is going to tell the leaders in the black church, the good reverend and deaconesses, okay, how to do something in their congregations.
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Now we just got to sit with that.
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You're not supposed to be able to tell them nothing about nothing.
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I don't care what your expertise is, you can't touch their flock.
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All right, and that's why you have in a summit convention, ok, so I'm coming back to that, ok, ok, and y'all?
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I want to go in and stop for this for a second.
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There are people from all over this country.
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I was on my shuttle.
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I was sitting beside a speaker from Los Angeles.
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Now, you can't get much further from Atlanta than Los Angeles.
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Who's coming to this summit convention?
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Summit convention, yes, or the path that got this secret society Real.
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Talk, the African-American level of bishops and ordained people.
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They don't let anybody in.
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You got to have your stripes on how many years you've been in the pulpit before you can even get to the level of you can even be a visiting pastor.
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Yeah, how did you get them to let you do that?
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God can I just say there we go.
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But you know, no, what.
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Everything you're saying is what I felt in the beginning Like what in the world?
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How am I going to do this?
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Who's not intimidated by that senior pastor, the bishop, because you just talked about this society of them we have held all our life and we still I respect them, hold them, have that reverence toward them, whatever they say.
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That's what it is and that's how our parents they kind of followed them.
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So I was intimidated in the beginning, but I know what God laid on my heart.
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So when I showed up at Alliance meetings you can see it in my voice I was intimidated and nobody was listening to me.
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But the thing is me.
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But the thing is he put key people in these meetings, key leaders that did hear me, hear me mumble, and one Pastor, jakes.
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He came to me.
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He said now, everybody not going to hear you, they're not going to follow you, but they're going to have prophets out here that's going to see what you're trying to do and they're going to jump on and they're going to join this movement.
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And I was like what he said?
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So don't worry about those that don't open up their door, that don't respond to you.
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He said that's all right.
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They're going to come, but there's people like me that are ready to do this work and I was like, oh OK, so that's one pastor.
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And then once I looked at it like that and I wasn't expecting.
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I knew it was going to be the ones that God wanted me to work with, that's the ones that he was going to let hear me.
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And then my confidence built up, and then, of course, you know, they're going to tell their pastor friends about me and this and that.
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And here we are here.
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We are here we are here, we are here, we are here, we are, here, we are.
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So the altar program had its first gathering in 2019.
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Is that correct?
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No, our first summit convention was last year, okay, but we in 2019 is when we put the concept together to create a full program and we sign, and what we do is part of this program.
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We sign and we partner with churches or alliances, conferences, districts, whatever denomination you're going by, you know what you have, right, we?
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We partner with them and now we provide a framework and that's the coaching.
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Now we're coaching the faith leaders, the ministry leaders, how to better support their caregivers, their parishioners they're sitting right there in the pews and the chairs, so we're training them over the two years.
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So January 2020 is when we actually signed our first church, which was my church, of course and then it spread throughout that and five years later, we were in 23 states, 112 faith community partners individual, some are alliances, some of the districts, whatever it is 14 Christian denominations and we're looking to expand.
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The thing is, I want to go wherever black people go to worship.
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I want to make sure that I am bringing resources, because you talked about this current climate.
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Y'all we need.
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We cannot.
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We need us.
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We cannot wait on others.
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We've been doing that for years.
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We've been waiting on others to create solutions for us for years, decades, decades.
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Yeah, right, yeah, you're right.
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Decades Take out, years, decades, and so we have to stop.
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Absolutely we have to stop.
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And so I really think I know everybody may not be religious, but so many people still.
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Even though I don't go to, I still pay attention.
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If I need help, I know where to go.
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Absolutely, and I want to make sure that our faith communities across the country, internationally, up in the Ghana, have what they need.
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